Capt. Gus'

Crabby Adventures 

 

Gus's Crabby Adventures-Oyster Reef Designs,Inc.
3031 Manatee Ave.
Ruskin, FL 33570

ph: 813-645-6578
alt: 813-645-6063/758-1863

Blue Crab Demise

 Blue Crab Demise

Florida is loosing it's blue crab population from a lack of Florida Wildlife Commission direction. 

 

The following are letters sent to FWC Commission in Tallahassee indicating what is wrong with Florida's blue crab population. If you feel the same way I do that we need a close season; at least on female blue crabs...send me a e-mail and I'll post on web site.

Thank you, Capt Gus

 

 

 

July 20, 2008

 

FWC Commissioners:

 

            I’ll try one more time to convince you what Florida

and other State's management direction for blue crabs is wrong.

Evolution dictates that in marine environment it takes numbers to

make numbers. Reduce those numbers in any fish stocks and

reproduction stops. Any biologist knows this. Every marine

resource that collapsed resulted from over harvest of a

resource, that’s why governing agencies have set up strict

guidelines for close seasons. Most states have never imposed

close seasons for female blue crabs; because once they spawn

their reproductive role is over. But many female blue crabs and I

say many are carrying eggs that are concealed and not exposed

out from their abdomen. Therefore, when taking these young

pregnant females we’re taking female blue crabs that eventually

could spawn in the future.

 

            Now that brings us to a test close season for female blue

crabs and no sale of female blue crabs in Florida; in all waters of

Florida and the Gulf of Mexico. Not a close season for blue crabs in general, or a questionnaire to fishermen how many female blue crabs they catch…that would end with wrongly reported data. Blue crab fishermen “responds” to this close season would be quite interesting. If blue crab fishermen reported a closed season on females meant they would be put out of business as crabbers, then that strongly suggest female blue crabs make up a large part of their catch.

 

            FWC researchers keep pointing in the wrong direction. One

such source of miss direction in stock reduction…derelict crab

traps. How many tons of blue crabs have been depleted by

abandon blue crab traps…no one knows, that’s just a lame brain

excuse. I’ve helped on derelict trap removal in Tampa Bay and

only found a hand full of blue crabs, plus traps rust in salt water

leaving only a steel bar, rope, and float.. Another hair brain

method for stock replenishment is to remove traps for a two

week clean up of abandon crab traps…traps will only be moved to

other waters of the State not conducting derelict trap removals

clean during those 2 week clean up periods. Another wrong

direction is measuring how long a blue crab lives. Who cares about

the life cycle of a blue crab if blue crab stock assessments are

below normal?

 

            In 2003, I came before FWC Commissioners and

presented a document that I prepared over a length of time

explaining blue crab problems that ended up being a with a waste

of my time. But remember this, when I first started commercially

catching blue crabs in Tampa Bay 32 years ago, blue crab

fishermen came to Tampa Bay in the winter time and docked their

boats at Ruskin to harvest the female blue crabs to take to

picking plants. Their boxes were filled with female crabs, plus

egg bearing females. Those picking plants closed and crabbers

stopped coming to Tampa Bay, because female blue crabs stopped

coming to Tampa Bay. In 2003 when I gave you that report, I

caught only (4) egg bearing female blue crabs. This year another

crabber and I caught a total of (2) egg bearing female blue

crabs. And FWC says blue crabs are “resilient”. Resilient meaning

> tending to recover from or adjust easily to misfortune or

change.

 

          In conclusion, ask your Blue Crab Advisory Board, BCAB

what impact industry would have if Florida would impose a close

season, no sale in Florida of female blue crabs. Their answer will

explain what is happening to a resource that you claim to be

“resilient”!

 

Thank you,

 

Capt. Gus Muench

 

July 20, 2008
Commissioners,
No matter how the BCAB "answers" this question>" In conclusion, ask your Blue Crab Advisory Board, BCAB what impact industry would have if Florida would impose a close season, no sale in Floridaof female blue crabs. Their answer will explain what is happening to a resource that FWC claims to be 'resilient'!" Put in place a close season on blue crabs, at least the female blue crabs. If BCAB claims removal of taking female blue crabs will not affect their fishery, then regulation has minimal negative impact on fishermen with passage of a rule stopping all taking and selling of female crabs in the Gulf of Mexico and State of Florida waters. If BCAB claims regulation stopping the harvest and selling of female blue crabs would put them out of business, then you know for certain what is destroying Florida's and other State's blue crab populations.
gus
July 22, 2008
Bill Sharp, FWC
First, when someone makes mistake responding to me about Florida's environment...I respond back whether they like it or not.
I received tag application Monday and sending in today. Thanks for calling, I appreciate your personal involvement. It's offend said things will never be the same as yesterday for most anything in Florida and that's understandable seeing the negative impact to Florida's environment from growth. If it's not raining on the peninsular of Florida then there's no brackish water outfall, no detritus, and that's a big huge problem for our estuaries. Combined removal of ground water for additional farming, mining, people, and we're making a huge negative impact on Florida fragile environment. I do sit on Agency of Bay Management, ABM representing commercial fishermen...not a good member though. I see future requirement of Tampa Bay Water's goals to tie up regions rivers, streams and lakes for future growth water needs for those new comers to Florida, which only deprives bays and rivers of needed brackish water for our fisheries. Yes, lost of brackish water will only get worse, worse, worse, and issue comes down to this. Why then do we need to continue those abusive practices of yesterday of abusing resource in catching all those female blue crabs? These females are pregnant, maybe not showing an egg mass requirement for not harvesting. This is pure ignorance on our part as resource managers. The resource is hurting, but we act as if nothing is wrong and call resource resilient. Florida environment is not resilient and neither will a resource that depends on detritus food supply. Lately, and I guess it comes from getting older and seeing friends die in stages, I've been in the habitat of putting issues and man's down fall on mental graphs. Looking at the stages of blue crabs from a short, and I mean short time frame of 32 years as a commercial blue crabber, the situation does not look good. The blue crab resource will not be resilient under these negative impacts happening around us. In 2006, I stopped catching blue crabs over seagrass areas of Cockroach Bay, because for 30 years I gill netted and caught blue crabs and mullet there. One of my best places to fish, but my effort came at big cost to environment. In 2007, HCEPC started mapping seagrass prop scars and today that number reached 30,000 and climbing for one half of this preserve. So, everyone; public and resource managers act as if resource is resilient. So when I say I want to stand up and scream, it comes from my understanding that I also was shutting out the truth...I did not wish to change my ways of fishing. But, we must or we'll loose the habitat and the fish that depend on that habitat. So, I'll keep screaming until some one listens. Ask yourself why Alaska has short open seasons for their crab fishery and you'll understand it's because they have a managers that understand the resource comes first, not fishermen who run the fishery into the ground. We're killing our blue crab fishery with lame excuses about the problems effecting it's management. Derelict traps, short 2 week closures, who are we kidding!
gus

 

Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2008 9:31 PM

Subject: Fl Statue revision

 

            When I think about egg bearing female blue crab

definition I’m moved to future protect female egg bearing blue

crabs, by having Florida Statue amended. Noting existing statue

language, the crux of the problem seems to hinge on

misinterpretation as to which females are egg bearing

female blue crabs. Therefore, this is one rule I’ll be pushing for

legislation change.

 

Existing language:

(3) “Egg bearing blue crab” means a female blue crab whose eggs

are  extruded and deposited on the swimmerettes.

 

Probably, rule has been applied regionally by every State. Rule is

actually  out of date and needs to be revised. Existing rule;

provides commercial interest ability to challenge any rule stating

which females constitutes egg bearing blue crabs by law, limits

State's analysis what constitutes a female blue crab with eggs,

and encourages future legal debates on sensitive issue of egg

bearing females of any species. Therefore, future regulations to

protect egg bearing female blue crabs "require" stronger

language in Fla. Statues that clearly view most all female blue

crabs as egg bearers. Suggest rule change to reflect in reality

what are “Egg bearing blue crabs.”  I don’t know percentages of

female blue crab numbers that become pregnant on last molt

when they change from an immature female crab to a mature

female blue crab, but imagine percentage should be high.

Therefore, existing rule claims only female blue crabs whose eggs

are extruded and deposited on the swimmerettes are egg

bearing crabs. Therefore, rule in reality disclaims all other female

blue crabs that are pregnant as not being egg bearers, which is

not true. Existing rule may be simple to understand for fishermen

and regulators to in past. But, times have changed and female

harvest of blue crabs is having a devastating impact on fishery…

written news reports explain that trend in resource

decline.

 

gus

 


Anne,
Looking at this web site I notice that after female blue crabs mates with a male, there could be a period of 2 to 9 months when most females spawn for first time> During the female's migration, the egg cells in the her ovaries will begin to develop and will be ready for fertilization within one to two months after mating. Most females spawn for the first time two to nine months after mating, usually from May through August the following season (they overwinter before spawning by burrowing in the mud.)

 The sperm packets are stored inside the female in special

receptacles, or sacs, known as spermathecae, which lie just inside

the gonopore. These sperm are believed to be viable for as long

as the female is alive. Although a female will mate only once, she

may produce many fertilized egg masses during her lifetime from

this single mating. Fertilization occurs each time a new egg mass is

produced by the ovaries until the sperm reserves are depleted.  

Studies in Florida found that some female crabs produce as many

as seven broods (sponges) in one year from a single mating, and up

to 18 broods over 2–2½ years. Chesapeake Bay female crabs are

capable of producing multiple egg masses over several years,

though most will not produce more than one or two masses due to

their short average life span, typically 1–2 years.

Time length for egg (sponge) development takes about two
weeks> The eggs take about two weeks (14 days) to fully develop and hatch. Initially the egg mass is orange-yellow in color and gradually darkens to black.
Based on this information, what percentage of a female's lifetime do you believe female blue crabs "do not" show sponge mass eggs compared to time they "display" sponge mass eggs? Time line is important before female blue crabs spawn, or between each time they spawn, because under existing Rule 68B-45.002 Definitions, females crabs not following under rule (3) can be harvested.>
(3) “Eggbearing blue crab” means a female blue crab whose eggs are extruded and deposited on the swimmerettes.
Fl. Admin. Code 

68B-45.002 Definitions.

As used in this rule chapter:

(3) “Eggbearing blue crab” means a female blue crab whose eggs

are extruded and deposited on the swimmerettes.

    I am perplexed as what is happening to all those female egg bearing sponge blue crabs.  Myself and another crabber this year in Ruskin caught a total of two sponge blue crabs? But we caught many, many female crabs not showing sponges that we sold. Now the question is, how many of those females that we sold not showing sponges were actually pregnant female blue crabs that could in future spawn many, many more times?"
Thank you for you time,
Capt. Gus Muench

 

Specific Authority Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const., Chapter 83-134,

Laws of Fla., as amended by Chapter 84-121, and

Chapter 85-163, Laws of  Fla. Law Implemented Art. IV, Sec. 9,

Fla. Const., Chapter 83-134, Laws of Fla., as amended by Chapter

84-121, and Chapter 85-163, Laws of Fla.  History–New 12-14-93,

Amended 6-1-94, 10-4-95, Formerly 46-45.001, Amended  6-1-

99 .

68B-45.002 Definitions.

As used in this rule chapter:

(1) “Blue crab” means any crustacean of the species Callinectes

sapidus, or  any part thereof.

(2) “Drop net” means a small, usually circular, net with weights

attached along the outer edge and a single float in the center.

(3) “Eggbearing blue crab” means a female blue crab whose eggs

are  extruded and deposited on the swimmerettes.

 

News articles on negative impact of harvesting female blue crabs

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/virginia-clamps-down-harvest-blue-crabs

http://www.atlanticbreezes.com/femalebluecrabcontradiction.htm

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/04/10/america/Crab-Worries.php

http://www.bluecrab.info/forum/index.php?topic=24170.0

http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/7750

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/09/AR2008040901797.html

http://www.charlescountycafe.com/?p=3734

http://www.topix.com/forum/food/TP1J64ODSACQ0PO0S

http://www.walletpop.com/2008/07/16/top-25-things-vanishing-from-america-19-maryland-blue-crabs/

http://www.annapolisjobs.com/cgi-bin/read/2008/07_16-03/ENV

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/fishfacts/bluecrab.asp

http://www.mdsg.umd.edu/MarineNotes/Feb-Mar94/index.html

http://www.wbaltv.com/news/16360415/detail.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOduIWMrRRo

http://news.aol.com/story/_a/where-have-all-the-blue-crabs-gone/20080716170309990001

http://www.ncseagrant.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=story&pubid=145&storyid=238

http://www.newser.com/story/24013.html

http://crd.dnr.state.ga.us/assets/documents/BlueCrabNewsletterapr02.pdf

http://www.mdsg.umd.edu/MarineNotes/Feb-Mar94/index.html

http://www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/A/ANR-1226/

http://www.wtop.com/?sid=1397243&nid=25

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bal-te.md.crabs20apr20,0,3637871.story

http://www.mddems.com/demclips.php?id=226

http://www.newsday.com/topic/bal-id.profile11may11,0,5718947,full.story

http://www.topix.com/forum/state/md/TI6Q19QMG3CNI1SS7/p2

http://baconsrebellion.blogspot.com/2008/04/save-blue-crab.html

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/20080413_Md__might_limit_catches_of_blue_crabs.html

http://www.wral.com/business/story/3213767/

http://www.chesapeakebay.net/news.aspx?menuitem=19362

http://www.bluecrab.info/forum/index.php?topic=729.0

http://search.somd.com/search.cgi?np=11&q=crabs

http://gce-lter.marsci.uga.edu/lter/files/pubs/Wrona_Amanda_PhD_2004.pdf

http://www.mssa.net/subpages/presmessmay08.pdf

http://www.mrc.virginia.gov/bcAC/bcac_minutes_01-22-07.pdf

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/bal-id.profile11may11,0,6707710.story?page=2

http://www.mcall.com/topic/bal-md.crabs08may08,0,2940950.story

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06225/712646-34.stm

http://www.news8.net/

http://www.brunswick-online.com/brunswick/newslog.asp

http://savannahnow.com/node/522034

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/063008/geo_297496868.shtml

http://www.coastalcourier.com/news/archive/7691/

http://www.floridaconservation.org/marine/recreational/recbluecrab.htm

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/dnrnews/pressrelease2008/041508d.html

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/04/maryland-virginia-blue-crab-harvest-be-cut-34

http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/063008/geo_297496868.shtml

http://crd.dnr.state.ga.us/content/displaycontent.asp?txtDocument=513

http://www.politickermd.com/editormd/1828/governors-omalley-and-kaine-announce-joint-effort-rebuild-blue-crab-populations

http://www.mrc.virginia.gov/bcac/bcac_draft_minutes_08-21-06.pdf

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-mdcrabs,0,7821112.storygallery

http://vbsf.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=5143

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http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bnatres/fishwild/mfsizes.htm

http://www.raisingkaine.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=13816

http://amelia-island-fishing.com/fishing/articles/bluecrab.cfm

http://www.mrc.state.va.us/newsletters/cfn_summer02.pdf

http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/assets/public/comm_exec/pubs/gbnep/gbnep-33/gbnep_33_47_60.pdf

http://mlis.state.md.us/2000rs/fnotes/bil_0000/hb0030.rtf

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http://www.halfhitch.com/fishdefault.asp?fishID=52

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http://members.tripod.com/~MrMullet/index-6.html

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http://www.2fla.com/florida_saltwater_fishing.htm

http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/commercial/bluecrabregs.html

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http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/39853/tips_for_catching_crabs_in_florida.html?page=2

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http://www.jstor.org/pss/1353255

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http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2003_04/gacode/27-4-150.html

http://www.lobsteranywhere.com/lobster_glossary.htm

http://cyberangler.com/articles/fishing_regulations.html

http://www.chow.com/ingredients/573

http://www.reef.crc.org.au/research/fishing_fisheries/statusfisheries/crabspanner.htm

http://www.mrc.virginia.gov/commission_summaries/cs0502.shtm

http://www.fish.state.pa.us/fishpub/summary/delaware.html

http://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?pid=S0717-71781997002500007&script=sci_arttext

http://www.vims.edu/bridge/bluecrabworkshop2.pdf

http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/crab.aspx

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http://192.36.125.6/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9912&L=fish-sci&T=0&O=D&P=3366

http://www.mobilebaynep.com/Crab Stuff/Crab Watch/CrabWatchManual.pdf

http://crabbyadventures.com/blue_crab_demise

 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gus
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 6:28 PM
Subject: Fw: Letter to Editor

Letter sent to "Letter to Editors." DOUBT if any newspaper will print! And, doubt if anyone who reads...will CARE!
Gus 
Tallahassee Democrat
stpete times editorial

Chris PorterEditor
Charlotte Sun

Letter to Editor:

 

 

Florida like every other coastal states, have no idea how to manage blue crabs. Florida allows commercial fishermen to dictate catch rules. Fisheries have always collapse when fishermen dictate the rules, because as fishermen, we never plan for future, just look for the fast buck. Blue crabs populations collapse because we harvest the female blue crabs. Any species will collapse when you decimate their female populations. No closed season in Florida for female blue crabs is a joke; just ask those States where blue crab populations are collapsing. We judge no catch females by their sponge crab appearance. But, pregnant female blue crabs have both the appearance of sponge crabs and non-sponge crabs. Female blue crabs in Florida can reproduce, or be sponge crabs up to 18 times in a 2-1/2 year life span. Therefore, why do we allow Florida Wildlife Conservation, FWC to destroy a blue crab fishery that once fed people living along coastal Florida ? For more information check >  

 

 

http://crabbyadventures.com/blue_crab_demise

 

 

Capt. Gus Muench

 

3031 Manatee Ave

 

Ruskin, FL 33570-2809

813- 645-6578, 645-6063

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